[quote user="Yan"]Yeah me too but that outfit on Dagobah when Yoda was training him was so cool.[/quote]
Luke's goth-Jedi wardrobe in ROTJ was the precursor to gothninja...
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?Directors like Lucas and Spielberg [/b]have one major flaw that prevents them from achieving greatness; they present works that do not take into account the history of cinema that preceded them and how it has integrated the fabric of our (pop) culture, therefore aiming their films at an innocent spectator that does not exist. If an artist wants to contribute something that has been attempted before, he has to acknowledge that it was there; either by building an additional layer of meaning on top of the preceding one or by at least, referencing the previous works (think Quentin Tarantino). This false pretension of virginity, both on the part of the viewer and the filmmaker, is what keeps me from fully appreciating the films of these two directors.?
[quote user="philip nod"]this is an interesting viewpoint, the infantalizing of the viewer, but star wars was a kurosawa hidden fortress rip, and i'm sure there are many other inspirations form previous films. tarantino can appeal to art house name checking sensibility which gets really old really fast, but doesn't it stand to reason that their massive success is built upon their knowledge of film history and Lucas' ability to pull a film like SW out of the ether.
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Indeed, but that is precisely why their position is an untenable one from the point of view of intellectual honesty; they aren?t outsider artists and know their cinematic history, they just fail to acknowledge their borrowing in their work and go as far as making viewers complicit, asking them to fake an innocence they surely don?t possess, which is the only way their movies can work, although, to me, the whole thing reeks of a dysfunctional relationship.
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