WTF

[genevieveryoko]

MMM has remained solid IMO and he has had little to do with it for some time. i have no good suggestions for who should lead, the collective seems to be doing fine

I'm not sure if you could call the latest collection fine, looks more to me like they are on some strange drugs.

[Faust]

I was rather shocked when i heard marc was in the running.....
i personally think that stefano pilati will be a good replacement.
As he would have more freedom to explore his concepts than he does at YSL.

I just don't see this happening. Why would he leave LV for MMM?

[droogist]

I spent some idle time the other day trying to solve Rosso's little conundrum, and the only designer I can think of for the position who makes any kind of sense is Lutz Huelle; he used to work for Margiela, and he's been making MMM-style stuff ever since.

[Faust]

good call droogist, lutz might work. But I wish they close MMM asap and keep MM heritage untouched.

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This ain't gonna happen. The company is profitable, and is actually holding up well during the recession. Another question, of course is, who will buy Margiela without Margiela?

[lowrey]

those who don't care who makes it and those who think Helmut Lang still has a label

[Faust]

Haha, I suppose.

[Servo2000]

Honestly, I don't think I really care who 'makes' Margiela either. From the sounds of it / rumours / etc... I had just assumed he hasn't even really been doing much at all for several seasons now and I still think that (at least in menswear) they've been putting out some of the better collections in terms of product. It may not have the artistry, etc... that heritage MMM has but I don't know much about that since I've never had much access to the earlier work. The team is one of the few putting out a collection that to me seems sort of 'chic' which i feel is unusual for menswear and yet very un-fussy (or perhaps because of it).

We'll see how they do officially without him, though.

[laika]

^in theory I suppose it shouldn't matter that the man is gone--
wasn't that the point of the collective representing the Maison?
In that sense, it's almost ironic how quickly things have gone downhill after his departure...the last 3 seasons for women have been noticeably weak.

[genevieveryoko]

Laika I think you hit the nail on the head!

Personally, I'd rather support someone who puts a face to their name like Westwood, even though aesthetically speaking I'd rather wear Margiela.

[beardown]

Check out my new kicks, bro! Top neoprene part unzips to double as a bottle coozy!

[Avantster]

I don't quite think so. My point doesn't necessarily have to do with the actual designers discussed in this thread before, but I don't think that bankruptcy in fashion business can be compared to bankruptcy in "normal" economy, which can have postive, stimulating and correcting effects.

Because in fashion, genius does not necessarily come along with gain. History shows us that many of the most talented artists were poor for the most part of their life because their work began to be appreciated not until they were dead. Examples like that show that our capitalistic system may be good at rewarding productivity and economically reasonable actions, but creativity and artistic talent are qualities which can hardly be rated or included in a business plan.

If the work of a designer suffers from financial problems or if he even isn't able to produce his visions it could be another talent that didn't have the possibility to prove his genius and I don't think that this is something we should be happy about.

Excellent post, only on SZ would you find something like this on a thread titled WTF.

[ES3K]

How does MMM/Maison Marc by Marc sound to everyone??

Speaking of WTF, and Marc...

http://pipeline.refinery29.com/news/marc_wears_lipstick_for_nars_15.php

[almroth]

how adoreable..........

[mass]

yo these are growing on me

[galia]

What, like lichen ?