WTF

[jcotteri]

Yeah, but this one looks killer. I mean, look at the heel:

absolutely hideous... what are you people thinking?

[beardown]

joy division became new order... have you seen live footage of them playing from the last 5 years. It's as bad as those trainers if not worse

Oh, please. Worst logic ever.

Joy Division ≠ New Order. At all.
Old New Order ≠ Newer New Order.
Therefore Joy Division absolutely and completely ≠ New New Order.

Apples and Oranges.

Kind of like comparing old Raf (which I like) to new Raf (which is horrible). Just because the newer seasons have sucked doesn't mean that I dislike the older stuff that stands on its own.

[Fade to Black]

absolutely hideous... what are you people thinking?

i love them

i've been saying this over the weeks and months quite a bit but one more time can't hurt: Raf should just stick to designing womenswear full time at this stage in his creative development. All of his menswear indicators are becoming increasingly embarrassing for himself as the factory and the audience/consumer to look at.

[diamonds]

the heel itself is kind of bauhaus-esque

maybe that's what the next jil sander collection will be

de stijl @ raf simons
colour blocking a la pierre cardin @ jil sander

styling on that nostalgia

[Faust]

thank you for the visual, beardown. hilarious.

[asho]

Oh, please. Worst logic ever.

Joy Division ≠ New Order. At all.
Old New Order ≠ Newer New Order.
Therefore Joy Division absolutely and completely ≠ New New Order.

Apples and Oranges.

Kind of like comparing old Raf (which I like) to new Raf (which is horrible). Just because the newer seasons have sucked doesn't mean that I dislike the older stuff that stands on its own.

this is what I thought I was saying. They both have been great, but no longer are. This does not however diminish their respective legacies.

[jcotteri]

that's awesome BD

[STEALTH]

Joy Division = Awesome

New Order = Awesome

What the hell has Raf Simons got to do with either except appropriation ?

Stick to pretty clothes Ladies

You obviously have little grasp of the social impact of these musics.

[laika]

oh STEALTH....

you must stop being so charming...really.

[almroth]

hahaha. I agree with him on this one, though.

[STEALTH]

I

like walking in the park...........

Talking about WTF

Can someone explain to me why Undercover can do

Peter Saville

AGAIN

In 2009 ?!

WTF is going on there then ?

[asho]

new order was awesome until i saw a 50 odd bernard sumner literally act out bizarre love triangle on stage... one of the most pathetic things I've seen.

This isn't about anything other than a man and one of his influences loosing the kick which made them special in the first place

[asho]

I

like walking in the park...........

Talking about WTF

Can someone explain to me why Undercover can do

Peter Saville

AGAIN

In 2009 ?!

WTF is going on there then ?

probably has to do with the "social impacts of these musics"

[Faust]

/\ yep.

[STEALTH]

probably has to do with the "social impacts of these musics"

Graphic design does not = music