Your recent purchases

[galia]

I've used a pink version for the past year and a half I think, with an elastic band around it so that it doesn't open up in my handbag. I've treated it badly and it has evolved, but honestly, I think it still looks very good. weirder obviously, but good

[Lane]

i'll clear that up finally. jin and i were involved in a trade. 3 julius shirts for 1 size small ekam leather. i received his item before i sent mine out just to be safe because i've traded, bought, sold to a lot of sz members and he was brand new. upon receiving the leather there were a few major problems. first it was a size medium and not a small which was clearly marked on the tag. second he said it was a $1500 leather that he bought for $400 and he gave a link to the ekam leather on ink which was the more expensive version. turns out it was the $200 version that was made out of "Recycled leather" made of small strips of left over leather and was readily available on ebay. so he sold me the cheap reproduction leather as the normal mainline version. he argued that my julius shirts were used and crap anyways, 2 being bnwt twisting shirts from goth_ik and one being an unworn khaki shredded hem tee from midsummer 2010, so i should just keep the jacket and send them even thought the jacket wasnt worth even half of one of the t-shirts and he said he'd just destroy them with wear anyway and encouraged me to do the same with the cheap jacket. so i held the shirts and sent the jacket back and i dont know what happened. i know people get burned on trading quite often but i feel listening a $200 reproduced leather as a $1500 leather in the wrong size is dishonest. i havent brought this up in public to save the trouble of having to explain and jin is a pretty good poster but it was just an awful trade.
i have traded with plenty of sz members and have always fulfilled my end.
so that's why i am a scumbag.

something tells me you tossed his leather in the trash lmao, but I wouldn't even hate if he was trying to fuck you over like that.

[Fenix]

I've used a pink version for the past year and a half I think, with an elastic band around it so that it doesn't open up in my handbag. I've treated it badly and it has evolved, but honestly, I think it still looks very good. weirder obviously, but good

I'd love to see a shot of this. I'm very curious to see how this piece ages.

[dalmatas]

my new cubs

[Heirloom]

I'd love to see a shot of this. I'm very curious to see how this piece ages.

same, i've had mine for 2 years, and it looks better and better, and the leather is actually very tough. soft but tough

[Fuuma]

i think there is beauty in imperfection. both in humans and in objects. that is partially CCP's appeal to me.

CCP isn't Carpe or whatever, nothing is accidental, even the drip sneakers have to be made a certain way or they are judged a failure. In fact CCP is the reverse of a brand seeking imperfection; from deeply thought out concept to detailed planning and precise execution it is about perfect results. In fact CCP is so into perfection and uniformity in results that he wants to negate your body to obtain the same silhouette on EVERYONE wearing it, including females.

Now I must say that when I read sentences such as yours I just think you're feeding us some tired commonplace cliche as empty as the one about "timeless style" used by bloggers and menswear afficionadoes.

[Faust]

I don't think he meant that all imperfection is accidental. We discussed this a long time ago in the wabi-sabi thread. A designer has the license to work with imperfection if he's interested in it.

[Chant]

CCP isn't Carpe or whatever, nothing is accidental, even the drip sneakers have to be made a certain way or they are judged a failure. In fact CCP is the reverse of a brand seeking imperfection; from deeply thought out concept to detailed planning and precise execution it is about perfect results. In fact CCP is so into perfection and uniformity in results that he wants to negate your body to obtain the same silhouette on EVERYONE wearing it, including females.

Now I must say that when I read sentences such as yours I just think you're feeding us some tired commonplace cliche as empty as the one about "timeless style" used by bloggers and menswear afficionadoes.

Grande forme, le max...
Fully agree. Imperfection is the last word that would describe CCP's work - and he doesn't even know the word. Same goes for "beauty" btw.

[Fuuma]

I don't think he meant that all imperfection is accidental. We discussed this a long time ago in the wabi-sabi thread. A designer has the license to work with imperfection if he's interested in it.

CCP is trying to erase imperfection, he has a totalizing view that has no place for it. I mean people see something that isn't sleek or shiny and they think imperfection but it is a bastardization or the word.

[Fuuma]

Grande forme, le max...
Fully agree. Imperfection is the last word that would describe CCP's work - and he doesn't even know the word. Same goes for "beauty" btw.

Totally agree about the last sentence.

Je ne crois pas dire grand-chose de controversé, en fait tout ce que cela démontre c'est la médiocrité de la réflexion communément admise sur SZ en ce qui concerne CCP. Pour eux toutes les marques discutées ici sont bonnet blanc, blanc bonnet. BBS c'est du RO qui est du CCP etc.

[Faust]

Grande forme, le max...
Fully agree. Imperfection is the last word that would describe CCP's work - and he doesn't even know the word. Same goes for "beauty" btw.

Neither does Rei Kawakubo.

Then I suppose the question is, is imperfection in the eye of the beholder?

[avout]

Pour eux toutes les marques discutées ici sont bonnet blanc, blanc bonnet. BBS c'est du RO qui est du CCP etc.

Harsh, I don't think anybody here was going that far. Anyway, I thought your points about the totalizing view to be pretty enlightening, fwiw.

Beyond that we can carry on arguing the semantics of "imperfection", but who wants that.

[fireflygrave]

YYPH jacket and hakama pants

[BECOMING-INTENSE]

Totally agree about the last sentence.

Je ne crois pas dire grand-chose de controversé, en fait tout ce que cela démontre c'est la médiocrité de la réflexion communément admise sur SZ en ce qui concerne CCP. Pour eux toutes les marques discutées ici sont bonnet blanc, blanc bonnet. BBS c'est du RO qui est du CCP etc.

If we want to talk about the mediocrity of reflection of people here
on Zeitgeist can we please do it in English ...

Now I must say that when I read sentences such as yours I just think you're feeding us some tired commonplace cliche as empty as the one about "timeless style" used by bloggers and menswear afficionadoes.

That sentence has more to do with what Rick Owens is feeding
us with, than, if anything, Poell.

Anyways if Poell is to be analysed as a totalisation, the problem
in this project is the presence of the potential accidentality that
lies in the connection between the garment and the body, which
is inherent to the field he operates in. Practicality and experience.

[Fuuma]

Anyways if Poell is to be analysed as a totalisation, the problem
in this project is the presence of the potential accidentality that
lies in the connection between the garment and the body, which
is inherent to the field he operates in. Practicality and experience.

He comes closer to negating that potential accidentality and it is, anyway, one of the main trusts of his project.

I don't understand your Rick Owens comment but then I usually have no idea what you are talking about.