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Originally posted by unwashed View PostRelated to fashion, isn't this exactly what Rick Owens does and brands like HBA, KTZ etc.. Sure we may not like the latter two, but thats exactly my point. They just say FU to mainstream fashion and bring us this weird stuff :p
I do not know if I want to put HBA into the same league as rick and KTZ
As I understand it KTZ is run by Marjan Pejoski. Yes I would agree marjan is a legit rebel, he is the man who once put Bjork in a swan dress.
Rick yes, to an extent too......but Ruck and Majan are of an older generation if you will, they were born when true Rebels existed in fashion. I am not so sure much of these newer designers are rebels now. When was the last time we saw someone like McQueen?
Someone with raw bravado and fire in their soul......
One needs to look at the state of fashion now and the last round of shows to see what is happeneing.
the great ones like Margiela, Gaultier, Ann and such are all retired and replaced with :design teams: or commercial types whose focus in on the bottom line.
Even here in NY, with the CFDA controlling everything and forcing everyone to conform its not so much fun anymore......“You know,” he says, with a resilient smile, “it is a hard world for poets.”
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Zam Barrett Spring 2017 Now in stock
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Originally posted by zamb View PostOne needs to look at the state of fashion now and the last round of shows to see what is happeneing.
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Originally posted by Defender View PostAmen to that. This was a dismal dismal dismal season for menswear. There was very little new ground broken, if any, and the stuff that was derivative was so blatant as to be knockoff level. Marilyn Monroe faces? Good god that's the opposite of rebellious. And how many shows are we going to have to watch with the top half of guy's faces painted or their hands dipped in ink?
I think Men's is stuck in a rut, with legit talents not moving forward and a bunch of copyists catching up with very little distinction between the two groups
last season I had some hope after seeing Thom Browne, Junya and others doing really good collections with a lot of tailoring, something most copyists cannot do well.
however Spring 2016 was disappointing, however it seems spring collections now are fillers and real ideas are kept for the Fall Season.
In saying all of this I am also condemning myself too, because as a designer realizing there is a problem i Should also be providing a solution..............I cannot say with a honest heart that I am“You know,” he says, with a resilient smile, “it is a hard world for poets.”
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I don't think that sort of thing is a reasonable standard to hold oneself (or others) to. People like Rei, Rick, Helmut, whoever, are truly one in a million. Freaks of nature unicorns. We're lucky to even have them, and you can't have too many of them either, not without diminishing their voices.
Otherwise, at least rap has Kendrick, at least citizens have Baltimore.
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Originally posted by zamb View PostAs I understand it KTZ is run by Marjan Pejoski. Yes I would agree marjan is a legit rebel, he is the man who once put Bjork in a swan dress.I want to do product, I am a product person, not just clothing but water bottle design - Kanye West
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Originally posted by zamb View PostI think Men's is stuck in a rut, with legit talents not moving forward and a bunch of copyists catching up with very little distinction between the two groups
last season I had some hope after seeing Thom Browne, Junya and others doing really good collections with a lot of tailoring, something most copyists cannot do well.
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IMHO, Haider with his nonchalant glamour stuff is here to rescue menswear. If anyone can change the slim silhouette in which menswear is stuck since the old Raf/Dior Homme era 10+ years ago, he's the one.
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Originally posted by zamb View Postthe whole Idea of rebellion and all that stuff is dead in today's society
"Too much, you say ? Cowboy, paladin, hero ? Gentlemen, read your history. Yesterday's hero pushed back at bounds and frontiers - he penetrated, tamed, hewed, shaped, made, brought things into being. Yesterday's society's heroes generated facts.
"For this is what society is - an agglomeration of facts. In today's world, boundaries are fixed, and most significant facts have been generated. Gentlemen, the heroic frontier now lies in the ordering and deployment of those facts. Classification, organization, presentation. To put it another way, the pie has been made - the contest is now in the slicing."
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That's why DFW was so great at dissecting postmodernity. A bit OT now, but whatever - anyone else excited to see the new film on him? Coming out in NY Friday.Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde
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Originally posted by beyondthemeans View PostI will never buy any of those Rick bamboo viscose basics anymore.
Maybe it's just me, but they started pilling alot after not even wearing a handfull of times.
I know the price is relatively low compared to the other basic qualities, but this is just shit....bombing the bass, blasting the beat
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