What are you wearing today?

[ironman]

i like the side profile shot; as others said, i think the jacket fits you well minomni

[minomni]

thanks dudes, despite the structural / material rigidity and precise fit it's still quite agile..

by the way, i apologize but i did not intend to make an inadvertent advertisement for auctioning off my closet. this is not the case as i'm not selling any poell items, it was simply a refernce to the jacket. please do not send further pms requesting information.

[Chant]

I'd say he's right : a tad - and maybe more - too big for him.
Bit I agree : pic is nice indeed.

[ironman]

well, i wouldn't say it's large on him because, perhaps i am wrong, but i feel that CCP leathers aren't meant to be worn tight

[mrbeuys]

well, i wouldn't say it's large on him because, perhaps i am wrong, but i feel that CCP leathers aren't meant to be worn tight

I may be conditioned by the Dick Shrinkwrap, but I look at that picture and think it's too big, especially when paired with the tight pants and boots. Sissyp or not.

[minomni]

the profile photo is a bit misleading as the jacket is unzipped, it's quite fitted through the torso and while the sleeves appear to be more accomodating than usual, it's only due to the fact that there are two layers of leather to the elbow joint [the inner being the gloved layer and cut very slim].

[Sombre]

echo what merz said, fitted you as if it was made for you.

hof in my book.

Sorry fenrost, I don't mean to pick on you (the same goes for minomni) but this post reminded me of a point I've been wanting to make.

The HOF nomination for this post smacks of status through name recognition, which I think is widespread on this forum. The picture is of no great quality, nothing can clearly be distinguished except the CCP gloved leather jacket, because it is so shiny. As the other pieces cannot clearly be distinguished, I'm at a loss as to how this outfit would be the apex of personal style on the forum. (Like I said, I'm not picking on minomni; the outfit may indeed be very good - I just can't tell from the photo.) It seems to me that the only characteristic that elicited this HOF nomination is the very noticeable CCP jacket.

This is by no means the only example. A lot of people here give more respect and admiration for a brand or designer than a specific piece in question. Like merz mentioned, I've seen people post CCP fits here looking horrible, only to read subsequent comments along the lines of "Great CCP!" and "That's 'dope'" when, to my eyes*, it is anything but. I know people here have respect for artisans and experimental designers, but in any other context such comments would (rightfully) be called brand whoring.

*So that this doesn't sound like anti-brand bitching, I'll tell you what I'm talking about (but I refuse to name names). I mean people posting tailored CCP items, which I gather is cut very well, only to show pants pooling around their ankles, or dress shirts billowing out of pants, or coats cutting at the fingertips.

[fenrost]

Sorry fenrost, I don't mean to pick on you (the same goes for minomni) but this post reminded me of a point I've been wanting to make.

The HOF nomination for this post smacks of status through name recognition, which I think is widespread on this forum. The picture is of no great quality, nothing can clearly be distinguished except the CCP gloved leather jacket, because it is so shiny. As the other pieces cannot clearly be distinguished, I'm at a loss as to how this outfit would be the apex of personal style on the forum. (Like I said, I'm not picking on minomni; the outfit may indeed be very good - I just can't tell from the photo.) It seems to me that the only characteristic that elicited this HOF nomination is the very noticeable CCP jacket.

This is by no means the only example. A lot of people here give more respect and admiration for a brand or designer than a specific piece in question. Like merz mentioned, I've seen people post CCP fits here looking horrible, only to read subsequent comments along the lines of "Great CCP!" and "That's 'dope'" when, to my eyes*, it is anything but. I know people here have respect for artisans and experimental designers, but in any other context such comments would (rightfully) be called brand whoring.

*So that this doesn't sound like anti-brand bitching, I'll tell you what I'm talking about (but I refuse to name names). I mean people posting tailored CCP items, which I gather is cut very well, only to show pants pooling around their ankles, or dress shirts billowing out of pants, or coats cutting at the fingertips.

lol. i know these sort of comment will come along, thus i said, in my book. no one should necessarily agree.

** anyway, i should elaborate my comment, this donkey leather is not for everyone, not for me either. but see others can wear it well, it's another thing. :)

[Chant]

I mean people posting tailored CCP items, which I gather is cut very well, only to show pants pooling around their ankles, or dress shirts billowing out of pants, or coats cutting at the fingertips.

Interesting point of view. Not sure CCP is supposed to be worn with classic elegance. I'd like to think, with other famous CCP experts, that his garments are designed to have a kind of elegant awkwardness.

[lowrey]

I mean people posting tailored CCP items, which I gather is cut very well, only to show pants pooling around their ankles, or dress shirts billowing out of pants, or coats cutting at the fingertips.

I know this is only a side note of your post, but I feel obliged to comment.

regarding trousers stacking, Poell himself has done various pant types that have very long legs and variety of stacking, bunching etc. going on. he cuts sleeves very long, so even with the exact right size, the cuffs on coats and blazers are low. so I think its safe to say that his work is very much about distorting the typical.

[Venus in Furs]

A lot of people here give more respect and admiration for a brand or designer than a specific piece in question. Like merz mentioned, I've seen people post CCP fits here looking horrible, only to read subsequent comments along the lines of "Great CCP!" and "That's 'dope'" when, to my eyes*, it is anything but. I know people here have respect for artisans and experimental designers, but in any other context such comments would (rightfully) be called brand whoring.

I can't echo this enough and have had this discussion with a few people before. Regardless of brands, people need to dress to their body type and personality, something which is sometimes neglected

[minomni]

not offended, i understand it has little to do with my post; subjective terriory of course, but i can agree that certain implicit biases are made evident here as the degree of enthusiasm may seem incongruous with what is shown. though in this case fenfrost's nomination was clearly qualified, and in the end not one in earnest.

can't agree with the traditional definitions / conceptions of fit and proportions; it clearly isn't a matter of imprecision as you suggest..

[Sombre]

Intersting point of view. Not sure CCP is supposed to be worn with classic elegance. I'd like to think, with other famous CCP experts, that his garments are designed to have a kind of elegant awkwardness.

I think you wear it with classic elegance, and it certainly looks dashing like that.

I know this is only a side note of your post, but I feel obliged to comment.

regarding trousers stacking, Poell himself has done various pant types that have very long legs and variety of stacking, bunching etc. going on. he cuts sleeves very long, so even with the exact right size, the cuffs on coats and blazers are low. so I think its safe to say that his work is very much about distorting the typical.

I know he likes to distort proportions, but I find much of what I described aesthetically displeasing within the confines of traditional menswear (which even CCP falls into in that situation, at least outwardly). Stacking (which I differentiate from pooling) is an effect I think becomes more striking with exaggeration, like those Rad Hourani pants someone is selling in the Classifieds. If pants are wide at the hem and only two or three inches too long, it looks like the wearer forgot to have them hemmed or doesn't care. Lack of interest in matters of appearance seems to go against the CCP vision.

EDIT: @ minomni, this is difficult to argue since I'm not giving evidence, but the situations I have in mind I think were within traditional confines, at least that is what I assume, given the described occasions.

EDIT2: My original post (the portion quoted by Venus in Furs above) applies not only to CCP. I chose him because 1) that was the outfit in question, and 2) his clothes seem to be the most insulated from criticism on the forum.

[BeauIXI]

To be fair to Fenrost, "HOF" has become somethig of a colloquialism
for exuberant appreciation of an outfit.. Thank P Nod for inserting SZ into the cultural experiment initiated by HOF...

[fenrost]

ok, next waywt pls.