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  • Tumnus Truck-Tour
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 132

    shan't buckwheat's fit subtract the white button up?

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    • eat me
      Senior Member
      • May 2009
      • 648

      Originally posted by BeauIXI View Post
      Ye boi. Not hating, of course, I'm actually kind of glad we're moving away from wild (ephemeral?) Rick Owens stuff and toward a more grounded Hardnen look. The tweed blazer may be a paradigm shift in the wardrobe of many.
      Blasphemy. Why not just say that they're different and you're in the mood for the second atm? Directional design and cosy wearable pieces in wool - how on earth moving from the former to the latter is "moving on"? Aren't we here supposed to embrace risk? Otherwise you might just stick with "eternal" Sartorialist looks. No hate. Just a bit unexpected hearing something like that from a long-time member here.

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      • cjbreed
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 2711

        i knew the moment i read that post from beau that it was going to be flamed. but i think it was just a passing comment meant to reflect his own changing style. i think it deserves a pass.
        dying and coming back gives you considerable perspective

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        • cjbreed
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 2711

          Originally posted by BeauIXI View Post
          ...Not hating, of course, I'm actually kind of glad we're moving away from wild (ephemeral?) Rick Owens stuff and toward a more grounded Hardnen look. The tweed blazer may be a paradigm shift in the wardrobe of many.
          Originally posted by Fuuma View Post
          Why is Harnden more grounded, I know we associated tweed and those washed jackets with time of yore and old men and hence extend some characteristics to them about timelessness but in reality I don't see a compelling argument how it is any less fashion and subject to trends then Rick street/leather looks.
          Originally posted by eat me View Post
          Blasphemy. Why not just say that they're different and you're in the mood for the second atm? Directional design and cosy wearable pieces in wool - how on earth moving from the former to the latter is "moving on"? Aren't we here supposed to embrace risk? Otherwise you might just stick with "eternal" Sartorialist looks. No hate. Just a bit unexpected hearing something like that from a long-time member here.
          i think this could be an interesting topic and i'd like to hear more points of view.

          i don't have a lot of time but here are a few thoughts

          1. regarding what beau said about "moving on" to more grounded looks. it does seem that a lot of the more lauded looks of late are built upon more traditional ideas of menswear i.e., boots, trousers, knit, blazer, scarf. are some of you bored with what seems to be a small group of avant garde designers? is what was once balling now boring?

          2. i would like to hear fuuma explain how a tweed blazer is the same as winged sneakers and drop crotch track pants. i'm not saying i disagree. it is all fashion and it all is influenced by trends. but a blazer is different from a hooded samurai jacket, isn't it? i just want to hear more from the master...

          3. i agree that we are here to embrace risk and innovation. so what is the "next level"? if there is boredom around avant garde fashion, then is that because some designers are being ignored? or is there literally nothing happening since helmut, margiela and hedi are history, raf is a cruel joke, altieri is mia, ccp is a hermit, and rick is repeating himself?
          Last edited by cjbreed; 10-19-2010, 05:37 PM.
          dying and coming back gives you considerable perspective

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          • cjbreed
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2009
            • 2711

            by the way, i am of the opinion that PH is perfectly comfortable in closets packed with ccp, rick, bbs, cdiem, ma+, etc. thats what is cool about it. there is of course the 19th century peasant worker element to it but with proper styling that becomes more like a hint, or a memory. these are all great looks because they are simultaneously edgy and timeless





            dying and coming back gives you considerable perspective

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            • Faust
              kitsch killer
              • Sep 2006
              • 37849

              Originally posted by cjbreed View Post
              i think this could be an interesting topic and i'd like to hear more points of view.

              i don't have a lot of time but here are a few thoughts

              1. regarding what beau said about "moving on" to more grounded looks. it does seem that a lot of the more lauded looks of late are built upon more traditional ideas of menswear i.e., boots, trousers, knit, blazer, scarf. are some of you board with what seems to be a small group of avant garde designers? is what was once balling now boring?

              2. i would like to hear fuuma explain how a tweed blazer is the same as winged sneakers and drop crotch track pants. i'm not saying i disagree. it is all fashion and it all is influenced by trends. but a blazer is different from a hooded samurai jacket, isn't it? i just want to hear more from the master...

              3. i agree that we are here to embrace risk and innovation. so what is the "next level"? if there is boredom around avant garde fashion, then is that because some designers are being ignored? or is there literally nothing happening since helmut, margiela and hedi are history, raf is a cruel joke, altieri is mia, ccp is a hermit, and rick is repeating himself?
              As to 1 and 3, I think it's really a matter of personal style. Some people look great in certain things, others don't. I, for example, cannot pull off stuff that andrewisawarlod or Chrisitan, mr.beuyes can. And thank god I know my limits.
              Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

              StyleZeitgeist Magazine

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              • BeauIXI
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 1272

                Jeez fellows. I didn't intend to be taken so personally, I meant that it's nice to move away from a look that's as quite as hostile as Rick, etc. Maybe it's just my conception of Rick, maybe it's just how I wear it, but I find that the Hardnen blazers are a lot more accessible to the "general public", you could say.

                Of course the two could employ the exact same incredible sartorial advances, it's just that one is extremely obvious about it and the other is not.

                Guess I'm either being misunderstood, or I have the wrong idea about PH, or maybe about style of dress in general. Maybe I need a break from posting to meditate here.

                I love the agressive stylings of Beuyes and Christian, but I can appreciate the toned down appeal of Avantster, Moth, etc. This is not to say that either is more or less "fashion" as it has been described, only that it is less alien.

                It takes balls to wear clothing that alienates the wearer from everyone else, and it's comforting to see the avant garde "masked" in tweed, rather than made of blistered ostrich.
                Originally posted by philip nod
                somebody should kop this. this is forever.

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                • mrbeuys
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 2313

                  Originally posted by BeauIXI View Post
                  I love the agressive stylings of Beuyes and Christian...
                  My, today would have been a good day to take a picture, draped as I am in 2003 Lang head to toe and at most passive aggressive...

                  Get your point tho, sometimes I just like to push things, fully knowing (and enjoying) the alien look and silliness that comes with it.
                  And on other days I like to play grown up and wear a HL suit. For me, it depends on the day, not the year, and most definitely not my age and I am totally comfortable with that. Consistency is the last thing on my mind. Surprise however...
                  Hi. I like your necklace. - It's actually a rape whistle, but the whistle part fell off.

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                  • kunk75
                    Banned
                    • May 2008
                    • 3364

                    it's also all to easy to conflate what you look good in with what you like. nearly everyone i know thinks i look better in tailored stuff but i just cannot break away from droopey drapey layers.

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                    • MikeN
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 2205

                      On topic, I suppose



                      Paul Harnden
                      Rick Owens
                      Boris Bidjan Saberi
                      Augusta

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                      • gaitortrout
                        Member
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 69

                        damn. that really is a nice jacket. proportions look a bit off from this angle though... think it's the BBS pants.... or the stiff posture.
                        pm me.

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                        • MikeN
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 2205

                          pants are boris. they are the ones from last season with the pocket flaps, so they flare out a bit.

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                          • gaitortrout
                            Member
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 69

                            Ah, I thought it might be those. It's a bit hard to tell in the photo but I see it now.
                            pm me.

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                            • Faust
                              kitsch killer
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 37849

                              Originally posted by MikeNouveau View Post
                              pants are boris. they are the ones from last season with the pocket flaps, so they flare out a bit.
                              lift up your collar, you hobo.
                              Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

                              StyleZeitgeist Magazine

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                              • MikeN
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 2205

                                at least I didn't roll up the cuffs this time

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