What are you wearing today?

[Servo2000]

Why are those the only two lines for judging things? Masculine / Feminine? I think the gender character of that outfit is one of the least interesting elements of it since it's mainly a social argument for what is me a powerful (purely) aesthetic statement.

[Faust]

They are absolutely not Servo - it's just how this argument started.

[Servo2000]

Sorry Faust, I worded that wrong - it seems that to me it's unfortunate that these "arguments" begin that way. It seems like whenever an outfit with some question of gender arises it has to pass through a trial of "feminine / masculine" and the issues that arise afterwards become lost. Even in this situation where I would argue there are much stronger elements at play before they can become valid it has to pass a "masculine / feminine" test as it were.

[Raw Edge]

yeah honestly i think anti-gay or anti-crossdressing comments would be wrong and out of place...but that's different than saying what you like or disklike. You don't have to like everything- I think it's fine for somoene to say- I don't like how that looks, looks to feminine for someone of your gender/size etc. I'd definitely want someone to tell me that if I asked their opinion, rather than just say "nice androgyny" when they actually were thinking "looks like crap"

[Faust]

Sorry Faust, I worded that wrong - it seems that to me it's unfortunate that these "arguments" begin that way. It seems like whenever an outfit with some question of gender arises it has to pass through a trial of "feminine / masculine" and the issues that arise afterwards become lost. Even in this situation where I would argue there are much stronger elements at play before they can become valid it has to pass a "masculine / feminine" test as it were.

I suppose there are - but they are definitely overshadowed by the obviousness of the gender bending.

Anyway, duncan, I hope SZ did not scare you off - I know criticism is not easy to bear.

[justine]

It's not sexless - it's feminine. Must we have the same argument over and over again?

I'm all for mindfuck clothes . My vote for the LUC gandoura!

[casem]

Well Duncan, you sure created some discussion! I hope you will stick around. For what it's worth, I would not have the courage to wear such a thing, but I applaud you if you do and I think it looks good.

I had to post this because it made me crack up. Just found that I was photographed at this gallery. Find the fatass that only attends gallery opening for the food...

[Fuuma]

Sorry Faust, I worded that wrong - it seems that to me it's unfortunate that these "arguments" begin that way. It seems like whenever an outfit with some question of gender arises it has to pass through a trial of "feminine / masculine" and the issues that arise afterwards become lost. Even in this situation where I would argue there are much stronger elements at play before they can become valid it has to pass a "masculine / feminine" test as it were.

Hmm, not much time to post right now but some outfits are obviously masculine or feminine and some aren't. You can't escape connotations and that'd be a boring world if we didn't have them. I personally avoid "feminine" pieces but you can't say my look is always very masculine or virile.

[philip nod]

I'm just going to go ahead and say that if I were to try on duncan's outfit I'm pretty sure I'd look in the mirror, decide I looked like a man, and go back and change. Meaning mostly that I can't say it looks all that feminine to me.

amen ^

[lowrey]

Hmm, not much time to post right now but some outfits are obviously masculine or feminine and some aren't. You can't escape connotations and that'd be a boring world if we didn't have them. I personally avoid "feminine" pieces but you can't say my look is always very masculine or virile.

yeah honestly i think anti-gay or anti-crossdressing comments would be wrong and out of place...but that's different than saying what you like or disklike. You don't have to like everything- I think it's fine for somoene to say- I don't like how that looks, looks to feminine for someone of your gender/size etc.

exactly. I dont see anything wrong with calling something too feminine, if it by someones standards and opinion is. I doubt anyone meant it as a curse word. I'm not sure if attacking these kind of comments by calling someone a narrow minded pussy is that much more open minded?

[Faust]

No doubt the tunic looks interestingly made. Maybe you can snap some closeups!

[electric_alyce]

The whole androgyneous thing is tricky, been doing it for a long time, realizing that I've been going around taking it a bit too far, trying to find the thin line.

(not to say gender bending isn't fun though)

[laika]

I'm just going to go ahead and say that if I were to try on duncan's outfit I'm pretty sure I'd look in the mirror, decide I looked like a man, and go back and change. Meaning mostly that I can't say it looks all that feminine to me.

exactly what i thought.

[kunk75]

[Casius]

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