WTF

[Faust]

I've seen a guy with a copy of this "vêtement" tee this morning, in a fake "vêtement" van.
Also, that's a big opportunity to make money on Grailed for DHL employees!

I LOLed.

[Arkady]

From the Vogue review "Pugh wouldn’t admit it outright, but if there’s a fashion god in this world, when Hillary Clinton wins the 2016 election she’ll wear Pugh’s immaculately tailored flag suit to her inauguration."

Fuck yes, backup career identified. For both me and Hillary.

[Faust]

Would have to be custom-made, cause she's a bit big, no?

[Arkady]

She can move Gareth into the White House pantry as he's probably still squatting his own studio if this is how things are going.

[Fenix]

Grailed cuts to the chase - why bother with discussion when most people want the lowest common denominator. Not that I am surprised.

I believe content is phase 2. It should be interesting to watch.

[Faust]

Content <> not discussion though. Content is still one-way, speaking to the audience, usually telling them what to buy. Hype beast is content.

[Fenix]

Absolutely, however, content drives discussion among Millennials. They interact differently and want to be engaged differently than GenXer's.

We are the old people.

[Faust]

I am convinced that millennials simply don't talk, because no one taught them how to. I am only half-joking.

[Arkady]

After 4 years in advertising my millennial ass wants to commit mass murder or self-immolation any time I hear "content," though the selection changes depending on whom I'm talking to. In low guttural grunts and gesticulations according to Eugene

The situation with respect to film is quite a bit more dire -- so many talented young directors and producers I know doing native ads for low-tier liquor brands.

[Faust]

After 4 years in advertising my millennial ass wants to commit mass murder or self-immolation any time I hear "content," though the selection changes depending on whom I'm talking to. In low guttural grunts and gesticulations according to Eugene

My GenX ass, too. It's no joke though - I bet you know plenty of people who communicate by text, and are afraid of the phone and are pretty hapless at human interaction. Did you know that you children have less sex than previous generations, even though you have more porn than ever. Sorry.

[Arkady]

Oh god yes to both, the death drive is strong among those who would find a virtualized life satisfying. The majority of us are heading to some sort of hikikomori state.

Though I would venture that perhaps intimacy is in decline because representations of it like pornography are so available -- people aren't as motivated to navigate the complexities of the real thing when the facsimile is so available. Perhaps the incomprehensible variety of material also makes a difference, i.e. once you've habituated to whacking it to transsexual snapping turtles a nice French girl doesn't seem as accessible.

I do imagine this is the very very frontier of man's next great conflict. Where once we went to war over our respective sky ghosts or lack thereof, the next schism will be between augmented technocrats and "luddite" humanists who pine for the golden age of 2005 when a user wasn't reduced to a husk after using a computer.

[Faust]

Would be kind of a badass war - unless we all end up unleashing a virus and live a Walking Dead scenario. God, I can't get enough of that show...

I mean, I do think the kids are alright - every old man grumbles about the new generation. It's hard to know whether your personal impressions can be extrapolated to an entire generation - probably better off not generalizing like that. :-)

[Gauche]

(from atelier site, new "vêtements" collection)

Reference to old Margiela. Like many of Vêtements creations.



Not sure Martin was still in charge when this was created. I remember seeing it around in 2011, but must have been released ealier on.

[Faust]

Well, that's just a perfect example of the difference between a true visionary and a hack, isn't it?

[PUCK]

What if it's finding community in understanding of the product's ethos? That's why I started SZ. Should I shut it down just because other people appreciate what I appreciate and that, yes, I derive satisfaction in communing with like-minded people? So, commonality in taste automatically means exclusion and elitism to you? What nonsense.

I know it's from a ways back but man...
Awesome-ness