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  • lowrey
    ventiundici
    • Dec 2006
    • 8383



    cdgh+, cdg, augusta
    "AVANT GUARDE HIGHEST FASHION. NOW NOW this is it people, these are the brands no one fucking knows and people are like WTF. they do everything by hand in their freaking secret basement and shit."

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    • beardown
      rekoner
      • Feb 2009
      • 1418

      Originally posted by Faust View Post
      If I find the world of low-level mafiosi and high-end sluts that Dolce and Gabbana pushes distasteful, why the fuck should I pay my respects to them? No, fuck them. Fuck Tom Ford, with his suave asshole aesthetic. Fuck Jeremy Scott and his ironic white trash bullshit. Fuck Denis Simachev and his Soviet kitsch. The list is long and my job as a critic is to rid the world of trash and ugliness, no matter how many postmodernists get in my way.
      I think this is the answer to just about every question ever asked on here.

      edit: RE: Lowrey fit, it's amazing how well CDG does the drop crotch. There are millions of dropped crotches in the world...but still very few designers do it right in my opinion.
      Last edited by beardown; 04-01-2011, 12:28 AM.
      Originally posted by mizzar
      Sorry for being kind of a dick to you.

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      • lowrey
        ventiundici
        • Dec 2006
        • 8383

        their drop crotch is actually a bit too boxy for my taste so I tailored it a bit
        "AVANT GUARDE HIGHEST FASHION. NOW NOW this is it people, these are the brands no one fucking knows and people are like WTF. they do everything by hand in their freaking secret basement and shit."

        STYLEZEITGEIST MAGAZINE | BLOG

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        • the breaks
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 1543

          i can't wait for drop crotch to go away again
          Suede is too Gucci.

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          • BeauIXI
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 1272

            ML, fits like these are what make you the king. Beardown, I definitely agree, though the Rick swinger pants can be rocked hard, the CDG ones are a bit more elegant.
            Originally posted by philip nod
            somebody should kop this. this is forever.

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            • Acid, Bitter and Sad
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2007
              • 1063

              Re Lowrey

              A, I'd never have guessed the drop crotch was CDG, just isn't quite their silhouette and fit. Whatever you did to them, looks great on you.
              Which CDG line?

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              • Macro
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2008
                • 351

                Originally posted by Faust View Post
                The list is long and my job as a critic is to rid the world of trash and ugliness, no matter how many postmodernists get in my way.
                Talk about egomanical. You romanticize your job if you think being critical carries such weight. I don't have to explain this to you, but ugliness... and therefore beauty, are entirely subjective. And there is nothing one can say to refute that. One becomes a critic when one cannot create. I love you, E, but sometimes I wonder whether you truly believe the SZ opinion on fashion is the 'best' one?

                The artist in me is angry this morning. :/
                every man has inside himself a parasitic being who is acting not at all to his advantage

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                • curiouscharles
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 999

                  Originally posted by Macro View Post
                  The artist in me is angry this morning. :/
                  You were touching on something that could have been interesting to talk about - and then you went and said that. /smh

                  -

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                  • Faust
                    kitsch killer
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 37849

                    Originally posted by Macro View Post
                    Talk about egomanical. You romanticize your job if you think being critical carries such weight. I don't have to explain this to you, but ugliness... and therefore beauty, are entirely subjective. And there is nothing one can say to refute that. One becomes a critic when one cannot create. I love you, E, but sometimes I wonder whether you truly believe the SZ opinion on fashion is the 'best' one?

                    The artist in me is angry this morning. :/
                    That's just something that artists made up to feel good about their shitty work.
                    Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

                    StyleZeitgeist Magazine

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                    • Faust
                      kitsch killer
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 37849

                      Originally posted by Chilton0326
                      Going back to the initial reason I posted a comment on WAYWT, I guess I think you're fighting a fight against something imaginary. Even when I wore Raf's PVC Virginia Creeper shirt to my govt job, no one really gave much a damn until I fainted.
                      Yeah, call me fashion's Don Quixote
                      Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

                      StyleZeitgeist Magazine

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                      • syed
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 564

                        As wishful as it is, I enjoy anything designed with sincerity and thought, even if it doesn't necessarily meet my tastes.
                        "Lots of people who think they are into fashion are actually just into shopping"

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                        • zamb
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 5834

                          Originally posted by Macro View Post
                          I don't have to explain this to you, but ugliness... and therefore beauty, are entirely subjective. And there is nothing one can say to refute that. One becomes a critic when one cannot create. I love you, E, but sometimes I wonder whether you truly believe the SZ opinion on fashion is the 'best' one?
                          D,
                          for the man I know you to be I would expect a more sound argument than this man..................
                          how can one say that beauty and ugliness are subjective...............(oh man, now I must recalibrate my lazy mind to defend Plato's idea of the Forms)

                          Do you realize you undermined your argument in the next sentence by saying "there is nothing one can say t refute that."
                          if your statement cannot be refuted, how then can beauty and ugliness be subjective, but your statement be irrefutable?

                          The validity of your statement would have to rest in a concept of absolutes which negates subjectivity.................
                          Also, I will take this to another level, the application of beauty and ugliness may vary, but we know what they are by definition, and if there can be an absolute definition, which is necessary to have any kin of discussion, therefore whatever is defined objectively to begin the discussion, cannot be argued to be subjective

                          we might have different perspective about a thing (you finding it beautiful and I finding it ugly) but that says nothing about state of the thing itself. It say more about the state of our perspective.............




                          Sorry, I had very little sleep and I haven't had any of the Coffee my Mom brought me as yet..............
                          “You know,” he says, with a resilient smile, “it is a hard world for poets.”
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                          • Faust
                            kitsch killer
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 37849

                            Zam, maybe it was an April's fools joke?
                            Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

                            StyleZeitgeist Magazine

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                            • Shucks
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 3104

                              Originally posted by Macro View Post
                              Talk about egomanical. You romanticize your job if you think being critical carries such weight. I don't have to explain this to you, but ugliness... and therefore beauty, are entirely subjective. And there is nothing one can say to refute that. One becomes a critic when one cannot create. I love you, E, but sometimes I wonder whether you truly believe the SZ opinion on fashion is the 'best' one?

                              The artist in me is angry this morning. :/
                              i'm with faust. shitty fashion is like porn - we all know it when we see it.
                              Last edited by Shucks; 04-01-2011, 08:11 AM.

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                              • Macro
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 351

                                It's a terrible argument, for sure. I wrote it before 7am. :)


                                "if your statement cannot be refuted, how then can beauty and ugliness be subjective, but your statement be irrefutable?"

                                My statement is based on the axiom of an individuals perception and it's relationship to time.

                                "The validity of your statement would have to rest in a concept of absolutes which negates subjectivity.................
                                Also, I will take this to another level, the application of beauty and ugliness may vary, but we know what they are by definition, and if there can be an absolute definition, which is necessary to have any kin of discussion, therefore whatever is defined objectively to begin the discussion, cannot be argued to be subjective"

                                So you believe there is a scientific model for determining what is beautiful? Beauty and Ugliness cannot be defined because they have no finite qualities. Only the individuals reaction can draw a subjective conclusion. As an easy example, think of a beautiful woman. Understand that the image in your mind would have been different 100 years ago. Time changes our relationship to what is beautiful.

                                "we might have different perspective about a thing (you finding it beautiful and I finding it ugly) but that says nothing about state of the thing itself. It say more about the state of our perspective............."

                                It is precisely the state of our perspective which determines the state of the thing itself. Don't give too much power to the thing.
                                every man has inside himself a parasitic being who is acting not at all to his advantage

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