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  • Fade to Black
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 5340

    Originally posted by MJRH View Post
    the question is suspect. in five years of customer service i've learned that if you meet someone already expecting to dislike them, you probably will, and likewise the inverse. cf. confirmation bias, and these two papers.

    from the second, "smiling will accentuate a positive emotional experience, but will have no effect on a negative experience."

    allowing yourself the option of pre-judging others means you'll often be "right," but nobody should fool themselves into thinking the game isn't rigged.

    ...
    all of this is very true. If someone is committed towards misunderstanding you, you can't convince 'em.
    www.matthewhk.net

    let me show you a few thangs

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    • Resonkuken
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2012
      • 408

      Originally posted by ambrosian View Post
      "Have you seen A Knight's Tale? You look like Heath Ledger when he goes to the big ball and has all the--he looks ridiculous."

      Not sure how to take this.

      Well, heath ledger was a good looking guy, so I´d take it as a compliment.

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      • Faust
        kitsch killer
        • Sep 2006
        • 37849

        Originally posted by Fade to Black View Post
        all of this is very true. If someone is committed towards misunderstanding you, you can't convince 'em.
        heh
        Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

        StyleZeitgeist Magazine

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        • cjbreed
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 2711

          Originally posted by MJRH View Post
          the question is suspect. in five years of customer service i've learned that if you meet someone already expecting to dislike them, you probably will, and likewise the inverse. cf. confirmation bias, and these two papers.

          from the second, "smiling will accentuate a positive emotional experience, but will have no effect on a negative experience."

          allowing yourself the option of pre-judging others means you'll often be "right," but nobody should fool themselves into thinking the game isn't rigged.

          ...
          this is all true but this is not all there is to it. i think the whole truth is a little more murky. isn't it possible that there are exceptions to every stereotype, or "rule", but that cliches and stereotypes exist for a reason? they aren't just invented for the heck of it?

          i'm talking about little things. not big things.

          i realize its a touchy topic fraught with pitfalls. but funny and interesting none the less...
          Last edited by cjbreed; 03-29-2013, 04:34 PM.
          dying and coming back gives you considerable perspective

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          • drew
            Junior Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 19

            Originally posted by cjbreed View Post
            this is all true but this is not all there is to it. i think the whole truth is a little more murky. isn't it possible that there are exceptions to every stereotype, or "rule", but that cliches and stereotypes exist for a reason? they aren't just invented for the heck of it?

            i'm talking about little things. not big things.

            i realize its a touchy topic fraught with pitfalls. but funny and interesting none the less...
            False assumptions are often anchored in flawed heuristics carried over from generation to generation.



            ^Some of these apply to human interactions

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            • MJRH
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2006
              • 418

              Originally posted by cjbreed View Post
              this is all true but this is not all there is to it. i think the whole truth is a little more murky. isn't it possible that there are exceptions to every stereotype, or "rule", but that cliches and stereotypes exist for a reason? they aren't just invented for the heck of it?

              i'm talking about little things. not big things.

              i realize its a touchy topic fraught with pitfalls. but funny and interesting none the less...
              yes, but pitfalls are caused by people applying stereotypes to individuals, instead merely of inferring them from. as soon as you lump somebody into a 'class' your attitude toward them changes and a feedback loop is set up. i wasn't saying this topic should be avoided, i was saying it's a much better topic for theory than for practice (and i was afraid you were suggesting the latter).

              to relate this to fashion: one of the ways this comes into play is active involvement in and play with the manner in which your physical appearance conforms to or distorts potential stereotypes - the way you use your race, age, height, bearing and other visually ripe signifiers in the context of what you wear determines the extent to which you look like a walking cliche or goon. i think of the confidence with which katharine hepburn wore trousers in the 30s...
              ain't no beauty queens in this locality

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              • Faust
                kitsch killer
                • Sep 2006
                • 37849

                /\ bingo. well said.
                Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

                StyleZeitgeist Magazine

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                • cjbreed
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 2711

                  ^agreed. good post. well said.
                  Originally posted by MJRH View Post
                  .....i wasn't saying this topic should be avoided, i was saying it's a much better topic for theory than for practice (and i was afraid you were suggesting the latter)...
                  come on now. y'all know me better than that.
                  dying and coming back gives you considerable perspective

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                  • MJRH
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 418

                    i thought i did, but i never trust anyone with duck-face

                    i liked ftb's post as well, simply never stereotype anyone in a way you wouldn't wanna be yourself. (whooops...)
                    ain't no beauty queens in this locality

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                    • Lane
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 988

                      paul harnden jackets have some sturdy fibers to say the least

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                      • kavaj
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 104

                        How the hell can one look like a skinhead and a goth at the same time?

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                        • VERY1
                          Junior Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 1

                          I was wearing my Rick long, sleeveless knit. Basically a knee-length vest.

                          I ran into a friend who hadn't seen me wear it. He wondered why I was "wearing a dress."

                          Of course, the only thing that matters is that I love how it looks in the mirror.

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                          • Faust
                            kitsch killer
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 37849

                            A very pretty black girl did not charge me for the coffee at pret a manger. Must be the Harnden.
                            Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

                            StyleZeitgeist Magazine

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                            • noise
                              Junior Member
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 21

                              at a party this drunk guy asked (well actually told) me if I read GQ then whispered that he wanted me to fuck all his female friends. terrifying experience.

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                              • noise
                                Junior Member
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 21

                                a lady never tells.

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