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  • Faust
    kitsch killer
    • Sep 2006
    • 37849

    Originally posted by Fade to Black View Post
    that's quite a dark thought kira

    i feel like that at times, but haven't in a while, thankfully. Peace just comes from being comfortable with whatever's there and not trying too much to mold things as they should be...things could always be better, but never will. Just gotta accept the now. Sometimes that means ridin along the dark tunnel...but eh whatever. take me back to the first time i rode back to the future rather than being on a sail that just floats on the ocean.
    either that or sex.

    Bill O'Reilly on the Daily Show. Great episode.
    Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

    StyleZeitgeist Magazine

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    • theetruscan
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 2270

      I realize I've lost exactly 20 kilograms since I sold my car, and started dieting and exercising. I have another 10 kilograms to lose before I'm entirely content, and I really wonder if my size will change. I'm still a size XL top and a size 52 pant. No change in size yet. I this seems weird to me. Usually when people talk about losing 40 pounds, they talk about how their waist size changed by 4" or whatever.
      Hobo: We all dress up. We all put on our armour before we walk out the door, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that we’re trying to be someone else.

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      • awlouie
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2007
        • 302

        Originally posted by theetruscan View Post
        I realize I've lost exactly 20 kilograms since I sold my car, and started dieting and exercising. I have another 10 kilograms to lose before I'm entirely content, and I really wonder if my size will change. I'm still a size XL top and a size 52 pant. No change in size yet. I this seems weird to me. Usually when people talk about losing 40 pounds, they talk about how their waist size changed by 4" or whatever.
        I think your size hasn't changed is because you're more muscle than fat ratio!
        "Fashions fade, style is eternal." —Yves Saint Laurent

        "Always be yourself, express yourself, have faith in yourself, do not go out and look for a successfull personality and duplicate it."
        -Bruce Lee

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        • Magician
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 709

          Death in June is sounding a lot like Robyn Hitchcock to me, right now. I think i'll throw some of that on and get my anglophile kick without the unsettling National Socialism associations.
          Selling badass McQueen topcoat 48/38/M. I also write and tweet.

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          • Fade to Black
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 5340

            I admire Bill O'Reilly more than pretty much most of what gets passed for modern journalism. I don't agree with what he stands for or the way he gets his point across, but the guy has a certain honest, uncompromising integrity to him that I respect. His whole career is based on making enemies and burning bridges, which would wear any man down, but he has stuck to his guns the whole time. If there's one thing to be learned from him, it's that it's better to be often wrong but never in doubt.
            www.matthewhk.net

            let me show you a few thangs

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            • Faust
              kitsch killer
              • Sep 2006
              • 37849

              Originally posted by Fade to Black View Post
              I admire Bill O'Reilly more than pretty much most of what gets passed for modern journalism. I don't agree with what he stands for or the way he gets his point across, but the guy has a certain honest, uncompromising integrity to him that I respect. His whole career is based on making enemies and burning bridges, which would wear any man down, but he has stuck to his guns the whole time. If there's one thing to be learned from him, it's that it's better to be often wrong but never in doubt.
              Matt, are you alright? Seriously. Lately, you've been off kilter, I am beginning to worry about you. Maybe you listen to too much gangsta rap, I don't know. O'Reilly is a fucking hack - he is not even a journalist. What he does on TV is an image, and he is no different than a clown, only much more dangerous, because he not only reflects, but also promotes the backwardness of the redneck America. You think he has principles, integrity? What's next, you are going to admire Hitler because he was a great leader and had strong character?
              Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

              StyleZeitgeist Magazine

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              • theetruscan
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 2270

                Originally posted by Fade to Black View Post
                I admire Bill O'Reilly more than pretty much most of what gets passed for modern journalism. I don't agree with what he stands for or the way he gets his point across, but the guy has a certain honest, uncompromising integrity to him that I respect. His whole career is based on making enemies and burning bridges, which would wear any man down, but he has stuck to his guns the whole time. If there's one thing to be learned from him, it's that it's better to be often wrong but never in doubt.
                AHHHH, what the fuck!?!

                Bill O'reilly and his "my opinion is unchanged in the face of facts" is the exact mentality that George W. Bush has. It's dangerous and destructive. He has no honesty or integrity, and you really shouldn't respect him.

                Being wrong often and never in doubt makes you someone like Bush. Being thoughtful, and accepting the limits of your knowledge makes you someone who can learn and improve.

                I think my view of O'Reilly is colored by a few things:

                1) The first time I saw him, he had a women's rights advocate on, and he shouted at her that 56% of single mothers are on welfare, so women are less capable humans than men. She corrected him (the real percentage was either 8 or 14, I can't recall) and instead of adjusting to reality, he shouted at her, called her stupid, and tore into her until she got angry, then he cut her mic and ridiculed her. There's no integrity in abuse.

                2) Bill O'Reilly hires people to literally ambush anyone who offends him, and follow them around abusing them, asking them abusive questions, and violating their peace.

                3) His unrepentant approach to his own abuses, such as the assistant he constantly sexually harassed is just disgusting.

                4) I can't stand megalomaniacs, and he's one of the worst.

                Lying, shouting over any opinion that undermines your point, abusing strangers, ignoring reality to support ideology, and violating journalisic standards makes you a piece of shit, not someone to respect.
                Hobo: We all dress up. We all put on our armour before we walk out the door, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that we’re trying to be someone else.

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                • Faust
                  kitsch killer
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 37849

                  Originally posted by theetruscan View Post
                  AHHHH, what the fuck!?!

                  Bill O'reilly and his "my opinion is unchanged in the face of facts" is the exact mentality that George W. Bush has. It's dangerous and destructive. He has no honesty or integrity, and you really shouldn't respect him.

                  Being wrong often and never in doubt makes you someone like Bush. Being thoughtful, and accepting the limits of your knowledge makes you someone who can learn and improve.

                  I think my view of O'Reilly is colored by a few things:

                  1) The first time I saw him, he had a women's rights advocate on, and he shouted at her that 56% of single mothers are on welfare, so women are less capable humans than men. She corrected him (the real percentage was either 8 or 14, I can't recall) and instead of adjusting to reality, he shouted at her, called her stupid, and tore into her until she got angry, then he cut her mic and ridiculed her. There's no integrity in abuse.

                  2) Bill O'Reilly hires people to literally ambush anyone who offends him, and follow them around abusing them, asking them abusive questions, and violating their peace.

                  3) His unrepentant approach to his own abuses, such as the assistant he constantly sexually harassed is just disgusting.

                  4) I can't stand megalomaniacs, and he's one of the worst.

                  Lying, shouting over any opinion that undermines your point, abusing strangers, ignoring reality to support ideology, and violating journalisic standards makes you a piece of shit, not someone to respect.
                  Just a few out of many:

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                  Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.
                  Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

                  StyleZeitgeist Magazine

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                  • swami
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 809

                    do I do whats right...Or whats right for me?

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                    • droogist
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 583

                      Originally posted by Faust View Post
                      Matt, are you alright? Seriously. Lately, you've been off kilter, I am beginning to worry about you. Maybe you listen to too much gangsta rap, I don't know. O'Reilly is a fucking hack - he is not even a journalist. What he does on TV is an image, and he is no different than a clown, only much more dangerous, because he not only reflects, but also promotes the backwardness of the redneck America. You think he has principles, integrity? What's next, you are going to admire Hitler because he was a great leader and had strong character?
                      Nope, that can't be it:
                      Though I guess Nas isn't really gangsta.

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                      • Fade to Black
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 5340

                        Originally posted by Faust View Post
                        Matt, are you alright? Seriously. Lately, you've been off kilter, I am beginning to worry about you. Maybe you listen to too much gangsta rap, I don't know. O'Reilly is a fucking hack - he is not even a journalist. What he does on TV is an image, and he is no different than a clown, only much more dangerous, because he not only reflects, but also promotes the backwardness of the redneck America. You think he has principles, integrity? What's next, you are going to admire Hitler because he was a great leader and had strong character?
                        You know faust, I'll be real honest with you

                        Ever since I started following your posts back in the TFS days, the thing I admire most about you is that your have conviction to the point of stubbornness in your stance, you are one of the few free thinkers I have ever come across, and not just on the internet.

                        It is for this exact same reason that I think you are completely missing the point of what I am saying. The whole idea of journalism is to present the state of affairs with the journalist's stance. The idea of 'fair and balanced news' (no pun intended) doesn't exist, Fox News or CNN, Bill O'Reilly or Anderson Cooper. Most journalists that people admire just happen to be those who are good in arguing and expressing a point of view that they themselves agree with. It is exactly the same thing that could be said for people who fully believe in O'Reilly, the Republican administration, what have you. The only way to achieve objectivity in news is to throw out some good looking, well groomed people to stand in front of a screen and simply describe what happened that day. That's not journalism, it's reporting.

                        The only way to be truly objective is to be a complete outsider, third party who has no interest in the argument, and can accept both sides for what they are without placing any judgment or value. The minute you enter the ring and participate, objectivity is gone.

                        As an American citizen, I don't think any SZ members on this board or anywhere living in America could (or should) be objective, with regards to the forces that have power to shape their political and societal landscape. That's the whole point of a democracy - you have the freedom to choose and take sides. I am GLAD that your conviction in your political ideals disagrees with what I said above, even if it is a result of a misinterpretation. A society where everyone is "objective" is not a democracy; it's communism.

                        The closer you are to something, the more blinded you are by your nearsightedness. Despite the vast amount of intelligent, highly-educated people in our society today, I am absolutely astonished at how many people are oblivious this very obvious aspect of human nature.

                        I am not trying to start a debate on politics, I simply hope you (and anyone else reading this thread) can take a step back for a minute and try to get where I am coming from. As stated, I AM NOT AMERICAN. I HAVE NO INTEREST IN AMERICAN POLITICS.
                        www.matthewhk.net

                        let me show you a few thangs

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                        • Fade to Black
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 5340

                          and re: your last sentence

                          Hitler was an absolute monster of a human being and should never have been born, but yes, as far as what HE set out to achieve, he was a strong and effective leader.
                          www.matthewhk.net

                          let me show you a few thangs

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                          • Fade to Black
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 5340

                            Originally posted by theetruscan View Post
                            AHHHH, what the fuck!?!

                            Bill O'reilly and his "my opinion is unchanged in the face of facts" is the exact mentality that George W. Bush has. It's dangerous and destructive. He has no honesty or integrity, and you really shouldn't respect him.

                            Being wrong often and never in doubt makes you someone like Bush. Being thoughtful, and accepting the limits of your knowledge makes you someone who can learn and improve.

                            I think my view of O'Reilly is colored by a few things:

                            1) The first time I saw him, he had a women's rights advocate on, and he shouted at her that 56% of single mothers are on welfare, so women are less capable humans than men. She corrected him (the real percentage was either 8 or 14, I can't recall) and instead of adjusting to reality, he shouted at her, called her stupid, and tore into her until she got angry, then he cut her mic and ridiculed her. There's no integrity in abuse.

                            2) Bill O'Reilly hires people to literally ambush anyone who offends him, and follow them around abusing them, asking them abusive questions, and violating their peace.

                            3) His unrepentant approach to his own abuses, such as the assistant he constantly sexually harassed is just disgusting.

                            4) I can't stand megalomaniacs, and he's one of the worst.

                            Lying, shouting over any opinion that undermines your point, abusing strangers, ignoring reality to support ideology, and violating journalisic standards makes you a piece of shit, not someone to respect.
                            You know, if the Democrats' side had someone who worked like Bill O'Reilly, that would lessen the interpretation from Republicans that since the Post-Bush era, dems have "gone soft" and often "play the victim." I mean, O'Reilly is absolutely ruthless and irreverent in playing his card, why can't you guys have someone who counter-attacks the other side with the same conviction?

                            The whole idea of adhering to some set of 'code' or 'standards' is obviously moot, considering that since O'Reilly has violated that whole system, yet is still out there speaking. Civility is just a front that shrouds 'honesty.' By honesty, I don't mean what is actually 'honest' since everyone has a different definition of that - I mean saying what you really believe and not holding back.
                            www.matthewhk.net

                            let me show you a few thangs

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                            • droogist
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 583

                              Originally posted by Fade to Black View Post
                              You know, if the Democrats' side had someone who worked like Bill O'Reilly, that would lessen the interpretation from Republicans that since the Post-Bush era, dems have "gone soft" and often "play the victim." I mean, O'Reilly is absolutely ruthless and irreverent in playing his card, why can't you guys have someone who counter-attacks the other side with the same conviction?

                              The whole idea of adhering to some set of 'code' or 'standards' is obviously moot, considering that since O'Reilly has violated that whole system, yet is still out there speaking. Civility is just a front that shrouds 'honesty.' By honesty, I don't mean what is actually 'honest' since everyone has a different definition of that - I mean saying what you really believe and not holding back.
                              Sorry, but what is this nonsense? If one person breaks the rules, the rules cease to exist? Everyone has a different definition of honesty? There's one definition of honesty. Look it up in the dictionary if you're at all unclear as to what it is. You can't just make up definitions to suit your purposes, or rather, you can try, but you just end up spouting a lot of bullshit - much like your hero Bill O'Reilly, come to think of it.

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                              • droogist
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2006
                                • 583

                                Originally posted by Fade to Black View Post
                                and re: your last sentence

                                Hitler was an absolute monster of a human being and should never have been born, but yes, as far as what HE set out to achieve, he was a strong and effective leader.
                                Hitler lost the war and ended up chewing on cyanide pills in his bunker, so that's not quite right either.

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